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Posting on Talkitover: Tips and Tricks

The following bits of advice will help you get the most out of your Talkitover experience.

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HTML TEXT IN TALKITOVER MESSAGES

If you include HTML text in a Talkitover message, it will be displayed to your readers in its exact original form; in other words, their browsers will not interpret it. For example if one of your messages contains the text

then the text will appear on the Web page of your Talkitover group exactly as shown above.

This may be what you wanted, but most likely is not -- that is to say, you wanted to include a link to http://www.mygreatpage.com (the <A HREF=... code); you wanted it in boldface (<B>); and you wanted it bigger.

To include a link to a Web page in your message, simply write its URL in the form http://some-address or ftp://some-address. It will then appear as a link in the message as seen by the reader. For example if when typing your message you include a comment of the form

then readers will see it under the form

where they can click on the link to go to the stated URL.

Make sure in such a case to include the http:// or ftp:// part. If you only write something like

then the text will appear exactly as you typed it, with no link.

ATTACHMENTS

Talkitover currently does not recognize attachments in messages. If you include an attachment it will probably appear as gibberish in the message page.

If you want message readers to be able to access a document, do not include it as an attachment but instead include a link to a Web or FTP page containing the document. As explained above it suffices to include a line of the form

which will automatically appear as a link in the Talkitover message page.

MESSAGE TITLES

You can name groups and topics as you like.o

For individual messages on a certain topic, the first line of the message will serve as its title for the topic's table of messages and answers. (If the title has more than 40 characters it will be truncated to 40 characters followed by three dots "...".)

So you should pay attention to the first line, since it will be given some prominence!

SIZE LIMITS

Talkitover enforces size limits on discussion messages. Currently the limit is 1000 lines and 10 K bytes (whichever is less). This avoids clogging Talkitover groups with huge and spurious files, while leaving ample room to contributors who have a lot to say.

Again, remember that if you want to refer to a long document you can always include its URL in your message.

TIPS ON POSTING

When posting a message, either to reply to an existing message or to create a new topic:

If you don't see a mailing window come up, or it doesn't show an automatically generated line with the given code, your mailer does not support mail or its set-up is not appropriate for Talkitover. You can still send a reply through any mailer to tlkmes@talkitover.com with the code word as the last word of the Subject. See troubleshooting tips for Netscape 4 or Internet Explorer.)

ETIQUETTE

As with e-mail and newsgroups, it is a good idea to observe the standard rules of "netiquette": even if you strongly disagree, be considerate to other posters. It is well known that electronic communication can sharpen differences, make people angry with or without a good reason, and turn otherwise pleasant citizens into unhappy campers. Also remember the general rule that, if you are really mad at someone else's message, it never hurts to let a good night's sleep pass before you decide what (and whether) to respond.

Because all messages on a topic of a Talkitover group are stored together, with a convenient hierarchical structure making it particularly easy for readers to find out who said what and to reconstruct the flow of questions, answers and counter-answers, it is generally not necessary to quote other messages at length. Just make it clear whose message you are answering.


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